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Whether it's through religion, seance, shaman, or personal prayer, we all share the universal

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desire to communicate with the dead. What does it feel like to die? Do loved ones watch over us

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from another dimension? Is there life after death? Hello, I'm Tim White, and on this special edition

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of Sightings, we may talk to the dead, but do they talk back? Someone died in the spacemen.

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On this special edition of Sightings, in New York, an entire neighborhood fights back against

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uninvited visitors. Do the dead attack? This man has lived in the most haunted house in America,

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and suffered the consequences. Can the dead live again? A World War I soldier dies violently,

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but is he alive today? I know my little boy really experienced what he said he did. There's no

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doubt in my mind. Can the dead save the living? Love transcends death, and a boy is given a second

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chance at life. It's not very often you get a miracle in your life, and then confirmation of it in the

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same day. Compelling new testimony from the living, who say they've been contacted by the dead. I looked

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at the window, there's this little girl's feet. She had curly hair. I had to be a ghost. It's a

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sighting special, in depth and beyond, the living dead, speaking from the grave.

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According to a recent poll, seeing, hearing, or feeling the presence of a spirit is the most

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common type of paranormal encounter. More than 125 million people, more than half of all Americans,

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will have some type of ghostly encounter in their lifetime. Belief in the presence of the spirit world

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on earth crosses all social, cultural, and economic boundaries, and can count among its believers some

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of history's greatest thinkers and greatest charlatans. For eons, the mysteries of life have

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often focused on death. Civilizations dating back to ancient times devised elaborate preparations

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for the inevitable. Almost all human cultures, human societies have a belief in afterlife that

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when a person dies, when you leave this state of being, you're going somewhere. If you look at the

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earliest documents that we find for most cultures, it's spiritual, religious symbols, imagery, texts,

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which invariably reference something beyond this world. The ancient Egyptians definitely had a view

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of the afterlife. The human soul went on in the afterlife, and this is the reason for the artifacts

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being left in the tomb of the dead person. And it hasn't only been Egyptian pharaohs looking for a

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way to move beyond their physical existence on earth. There has always been an endless fascination

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with the catalyzing possibility of immortality that life after death offers. There's an intuitive

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knowing that life extends beyond our physical body. We are a spirit. We are a soul wearing a

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body right here, right now, and death is nothing more than taking off the body and casting it aside.

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In the late 1840s, two sisters in Hidesville, New York, caused a stir when words spread that they

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were able to contact the dead. Maggie and Kate Fox claimed the departed spirit signaled them by

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making tapping sounds. A public eager to believe them embraced the Fox sisters as the first prominent

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mediums, and a new movement was born, spiritualism. When spiritualism came along, of course, people

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were baffled by the phenomenon. They didn't understand what these tappings or what these

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sightings were. There seems to be a need of people to realize that there's a part of love

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being that is eternal. The sisters invited people to their home to witness the astonishing contacts

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they seem to be making, and the movement grew rapidly. But Maggie shocked the world 30 years later

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when she confessed that their seances were hoaxes, despite her confession which she later

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contracted, the spiritualist movement thrived as a new charismatic leader emerged. Helena Petrovna

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Blavatsky was probably the most learned person in the 19th century regarding a view of the afterlife.

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Though she also conducted seances, Blavatsky was best known as a visionary, who introduced

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eastern religion and spiritual thinking into the western world. In her writings, she explained

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human existence as a succession of reincarnations in which each rebirth moves us closer to a supreme

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spiritual state. Americans are still fascinated with seances, spiritualism, and belief in

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after-death communication. But how does modern science deal with a movement so anchored in simple faith?

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The goal is to sync up the ancient wisdom, take the eternal truths, the occult knowledge,

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and synthesize it with modern science. Then there'll be one explanation. No matter how

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varied the phenomena is, there will only come down to one explanation because truth is true.

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As we approach the 21st century, paranormal investigators are using a vast array of sophisticated

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scientific equipment to analyze spirit encounters. Often difficult to explain,

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compelling evidence is routinely uncovered. If there are in fact apparitions, if we are in fact

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surviving death, this certainly is one of the most important questions we can ever look into as human

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beings. It is something that has tremendous implications about what we are, about who we are,

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and about what life really is. The whole world is looking for the same answers to the same questions,

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and it's the souls inner yearning, that divine ray in each and every one of us,

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that is pushing us on in this pilgrimage called life. Judging by the history of haunting phenomena,

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ghosts are homebodies. The physical body may rest in the grave, but the spirit doesn't.

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It appears in places and to people who knew it best, and there are some places and some people

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who seem to be, in a sense, ghost magnets, consistently drawing supernatural energy from the

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next world into this. Nestled in New York's Hudson Valley, a two-hour drive from Manhattan

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is the town of Beacon. The region had been a vibrant industrial hub throughout the 1800s,

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but father time and the lore of the big city for those who'd grown up here

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have been hard on little Beacon. Many homes in the area are more than a century old,

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and it was this history and the quaint character of the community that first attracted Julie Cohen

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and her ex-husband to Beacon in 1985. They bought this charming house built in the 1800s.

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And I loved it, and I wanted it. Julie and her ex-husband began an extensive renovation of the

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interiors. The house was in dire need of some pretty hefty work. It had a wood-burning stove,

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the dining room floor had been cemented, the floors were painted red, and everything had to be done.

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So we did that, and we worked day and night, and the last step was sanding the floors before we

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could move our furniture in. Julie's ex-husband and a friend stand in urethane the wood floors,

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then left, locking up the house so that no one could walk on the wet floors.

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But when they returned several hours later, they found this small dusty footprints of what appeared

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to be a barefoot child who'd walked across the floor. Julie's ex-husband was furious. He thought

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that neighbor and child must have broken into the locked house, but then Julie made an amazing

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discovery. To check the floor to see if there had been any damage, I brushed away the dust,

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the dirt from the floor, and it was tacky, but there was nothing there. There was no more imprint.

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No foot. It was gone. What I felt was very strange about the whole thing was whoever walked on the

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floor would have left an imprint in the floor because the floor was wet and tacky from the urethane,

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and there was nothing there. There was no imprint. There was nothing. Not long afterward,

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Julie and her mother were painting an upstairs bedroom. An old radio tuned to a rock station

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suddenly and inexplicably changed to another station. The first time that the radio changed on

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its own, I was in the bathroom and I was cleaning brushes, and I had my music on and all of a sudden

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it started going out of tune, so I went over to put it back and I could actually see

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dial moving and changing to a different song, to a different station, a softer station,

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softer music, not my rock and roll, and I actually would watch the thing turn and watch the dial move,

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and I'd move it back and it would move it back and I'd just stop fighting with it

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and said, okay, you win. There were many nights during that period of renovation when Julie would

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be awakened by one strange sound or another. There was a child crying in the distance, doors opening

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and closing by themselves, heavy footsteps on the back staircase when no one was there.

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After their renovation was completed, the paranormal activity seemed to settle down

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until Julie gave birth to her first child. I was breastfeeding and I'd walk into his room

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and the crib would be down. The rails, it was a brand new crib and the crib rails, I would be down,

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so I'd look and I'd lift it up and I'd feed him and I'd put him back to bed and it'd be up

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and in the morning I'd go in and the crib would be down. Julie's ex-husband checked the crib and found

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nothing wrong with the railing mechanism, but the strange activity continued. And finally I'm feeding

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him my oldest and I'm sitting in the rocking chair and the closet door opens a little bit

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and I hear the noise and I said to myself, it's a little girl, she's doing it. It's gotta be because

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the crib's not broken. And I said it's okay, I know you love the baby and I know you want to be with

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the baby, but you can't put the crib side down anymore because the baby could get hurt. And you

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can sit with me while I feed the baby and you don't have to be afraid and we don't want you to go

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anywhere, it's okay. And the crib never opened again after that. Julie became convinced that the

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spirit of a little girl was living in the old house with her family and she felt sure that the

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spirit meant them no harm. For 10 years, during which time Julie had a second child and also was

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divorced, she continued to feel comfortable with her unseen visitor. But in the fall of 1996, city

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engineers began to tear up the street in front of her house to lay a new sewer line. This seemed to

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disturb the anteater profound and terrifying new level. I would be laying in bed, sleeping,

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or even sitting watching TV and my bedroom door would open, shut, open, close. But not just once,

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it would just go slam, slam, open, shut, open, shut, open, shut, open, shut. And then I would just

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stop and I'd sit there like, I mean I wouldn't even move, I was scared because I didn't know what

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it was. I mean I knew what it was, but I just wanted to stop. In a home-spun attempted spiritual

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cleansing, Julie bought a small bird feeder which had a statue of St. Francis of Assisi in the

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center and hung it in her living room. She sprinkled the statue with holy water and placed

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white sage and white-voted candles all around her. When Julie lit the candles for the first time,

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seemed to evoke the spirit in her house. I was laying on the couch and I was looking at St. Francis

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and watching the light, you know, it was so pretty. And all of a sudden as I looked up at it,

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it just started turning, started moving in a circular motion. And I just watched it for a few

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minutes thinking, am I really seeing this? And then it stopped. And I looked again and it went in the

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other direction. When Julie revealed her experiences to her neighbors, they didn't think she was crazy

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because they told Julie that it was happening at their homes too. Across the street and three

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doors down, Stephanie Knap, her husband and her three children had moved into their home around

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the same time Julie Cohen moved into hers. Amanda was the first member of her family to witness

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haunting activity when an electric typewriter in her room took on a life of its own. My friends

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left over and she like passed out. We were sitting there and then she fell asleep so I was just

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sitting there and I couldn't sleep. And the typewriter just started like slipping out, like all the

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buttons were going, but it wasn't plugged in and it wasn't turned on. And then there was like shuffle

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papers underneath, they were just like flying around. And then I just like tried going to sleep

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and it wouldn't go away and I started screaming and it stopped. The Knaps were also doing renovations

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to their turn of the century home. Amanda's stepfather was digging out the basement to make

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room for a new bedroom. Amanda, who was only six at the time, was helping him one day when

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together they made a grisly discovery. And then we went down there and we started digging and then

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we got like halfway through it and then we saw this hand, it was exactly like this,

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there was all bones, like no skin, just like straight bone. You could see tell it was a hand

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and then after that he just like stopped digging and then that was it. Today, some 12 years later,

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the basement remains in the same condition it was on the day he and Amanda discovered the hand.

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Amanda says she and her sister buried the skeletal remains in the backyard.

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The kids have told me about it. I have to admit I didn't believe them at first,

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but he's never touched the basement again and as you've seen, I still have a large hole in my

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basement. I don't go down there very often. That's the one place that really kind of bothers me.

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Just this year, after the birth of her first child, Amanda had a frightening late night encounter

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with an apparition. It was early in the morning, my daughter woke up and then like you could hear

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someone crying, like it was like an older person crying, not a baby crying and then all I heard

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is, help me, help me. I looked at the window and there's this little girl's face, she had like curly hair.

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You could just see the tears pouring off of her eyes and I was like, can I help you? And she just

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kept screaming, help me, help me. And then I went upstairs and got my mom and then I came back

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downstairs and she was gone. But there's no way that it could be like a real person because the

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window comes up to like here on me and she stopped like right here and her hair was like right here.

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So she had to be floating because she could not stand on my ground. After searching for a logical

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explanation, there is now no doubt in the minds of the NAP family that their home is under the

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influence of paranormal forces. A lot of people have come to my house, sat in my house and left

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believing there's something in my house because things have happened. They have felt the cold,

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they have seen things, they feel things and it's unexplainable. Then most people leave

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thinking I have something in my house and they get nervous coming back. You can't make anybody believe

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unless they're here to feel it. Because I gotta tell you, I've watched people on television and I

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said, oh yeah, their house is haunted, uh-huh. Sure. But they've got to be here.

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Two houses, three doors apart, both inhabited by forces that seem to be from another dimension.

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And, say Julie and Stephanie, they are not the only families in Beacon who are being haunted.

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I have heard about a lot of houses in the area that have, they say that things go on in their home,

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but they don't really tell a lot of people about it because they don't want it to be known.

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Everybody at one time has felt something. And still are, but they just don't want to talk about it

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because they don't want people to think they're crazy. With so much bizarre activity witnessed

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by so many people over so many years, there's no doubt that this neighborhood in upstate New York

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is haunted. But by what? That's what Julie Cohen wants to know and that's what Julie Cohen has asked

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an investigative team to find out. Coming up next, the entities on this haunted street

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make their presence known during a sightings investigation. Right here, put your, jump right here.

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It's okay, but I can lean on it. Calm down, yeah, calm down here. And later, this man's alive today

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because he says the dead can speak from beyond the grave.

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The most common cause for a haunting is a sudden, violent death.

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Certainly, if there's a body buried in the basement, it would be a significant reason

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for a haunting to take place in that environment. The eerie and frightening experiences encountered

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by Julie Cohen and the NAP family of Beacon, New York have been occurring for more than a decade.

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The frightening sounds, ghostly imagery and moving objects continue. Are there rational

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explanations for what's happening on their street or could they truly be the result of the presence

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of spirits from another time? Before the arrival of a sightings investigative team, Julie Cohen had

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already worked with paranormal investigator Randy Liebeck. Skeptical by nature, Liebeck is a police

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detective who investigates haunted houses in his off hours. He became convinced that something

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strange was happening in Julie's house. The night he witnessed the inexplicable movement of a

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talisman Julie had made to ward off evil spirits. I actually observed it moving. I was here from

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the other investigator and we were setting up some surveillance equipment in the dining room.

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I turned and looked and I saw the incense burner spinning around in a circular arc

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and I told my colleague who saw it, he thought I had pushed it trying to fool him and I told him

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that it wasn't me. We physically stopped it with our hands, stopped the movement, stood back and

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it started spinning again and he saw it begin this time and it spun for a while then stopped.

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Again we tried to recreate it, we tried stomping, shaking the, pounding the walls, walking upstairs,

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stomping, it wouldn't budge so I cannot figure out what on earth made it spin the times I saw it.

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After reviewing all of the experiences Julie and her family had had in their home, Liebeck was

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particularly impressed by the story of the dusty footprints on the newly refinished wooden floor.

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The thing that intrigued me was that the floor was still tacky wet from being varnished and

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the footprints did not adhere, stick or sink into the varnish. It was like a light

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dusting of some sort of duster powder which I cannot figure out how on earth that could have been

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done. If somebody walked across the floor physically there would have had to have been

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impressions left permanently in the varnish so whatever walked across the floor had no mass,

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had no weight and I can't think of anything that could cause that except for your classical

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imagery of a ghost, lightly walking across the floor.

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Based on all of the Cohen's experiences Liebeck has come to a controversial conclusion.

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This house is haunted yes. There are a variety of explanations and definitions of the word haunted

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the phenomena that's occurring here is real. What Julie and the other people have experienced

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they have actually experienced. What I have experienced in this house is real. The question is

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the causes of factors is it the spirit of a dead person? There's no way that I can

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tell that. In an effort to determine the nature of the spirits in the Cohen and Knapp homes

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sightings put together an investigating team including a surveillance expert who set up four

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closed circuit cameras to monitor the homes for an uninterrupted 24-hour period.

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Under the guidance of Randy Liebeck three of the cameras were placed in the Cohen home,

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one in the former nursery, one looking down the main staircase and one in the room where

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several people had witnessed the swinging talisman. A fourth camera was placed in the

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basement of the Knapp home. While the surveillance cameras tape recorded continuous picture and

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sound sightings also brought in psychic investigator Peter James. Peter was given no information

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about the haunting activity in Beacon. In fact he had no idea what town he would be traveling to

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until he arrived. The only people allowed in the two houses during the investigation were a four

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person sightings crew, Peter James and Randy Liebeck who had a magnetometer to check for

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anomalous electromagnetism. Peter began in Julie Cohen's house. Julie was in the process of moving

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to a different house when these pictures were taken. Peter was immediately drawn to the room

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where the swinging incense burner had been sighted. There's a coal spot here and that to me

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would be an indicator if you will that this is like a vortex. This is like a dimensional

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entrance if you will where they meaning the entities, ghosts, spirits enter from, leave through

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or it's also a source of energy. Something is with us right now. Something is right here.

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There's a young, there's also I think a child here as well. In the nursery where Julie had so

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often felt the presence of a little girl and had even spoken to her Peter James also felt a strong

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presence. Again Peter had been told nothing of Julie's experiences prior to this visit.

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This room there is yet a separate energy and I strongly feel that someone died in this room.

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There's a lot of sadness. I'm saddened by the way this person died in this room.

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I think the death that I'm feeling in this room was unexpected and young. I feel very young about

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this energy. There's like I think about three or four people who died in this house over the years.

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As Peter James and the sightings team continued to move through the house, Julie Cohen abruptly

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burst in obviously shaken off camera. She told us that she had had a frightening premonition.

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She was sure that whoever or whatever was inhabiting the house did not want her to leave.

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At that moment both she and Peter felt the presence of a male entity.

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Previously not today but on previous visits this location one of my investigators detected an

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electrical tingling sensation in the air at this spot at about this elevation and I detected a

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magnetic flux in this area. When Peter moved down the block to the nap home he was instantly

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overcome by a sense of the dead and dying. It feels like something was done many years ago with

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there is a mortuary of a person like a mortician or an embalmer that was involved in this house.

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He instinctively moved down into the basement and began to sense that this location was the

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source of the haunting activity in the neighborhood. Again Peter did not know anything about what the

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naps say they found here 12 years ago. Some would die in the basement some would die down here and I

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think again I'm getting that kind of a mystery death syndrome. There's something unusual in the

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basement I'm reading a fluctuating magnetic field stronger than any of the other places we've come

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across yet. Now if I went up closer to the wiring in the ceiling it's going to spike because it's

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close to electrical conduit but there's no reason at all for any field down here and the hole on the

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floor but I am reading a fluctuating field which is stronger than anywhere else in the house

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and there's nothing on the ground here which should be generating any sort of field.

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And now is that are they walking in the house? At the same time that Randy Lebeck's magnetometer

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began to fluctuate Peter James heard a sound upstairs in the supposedly empty house. The

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entire team listened and heard the sound of heavy footsteps running across the floor above.

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Peter James asked that the home's owner Stephanie Knapp come in to see if she had a rational explanation.

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We heard distinct sounds right gentlemen? Yeah there was no doubt about it. No doubt.

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We were outside. Okay. Strangely the surveillance camera's audio recorder did not pick up the

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distinctive sound even though everyone in the basement had heard it clearly. Because part of

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your basement has the dirt floor I don't want to say someone was buried and I'm not trying to

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sensationalize this but I feel that someone died in your basement. A man died in the basement. A male.

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Within minutes Stephanie's neighbor Julie arrived again drawn by a sense that an entity was present

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in the area. Ready what do you got? We hear footsteps above us. Get up above us. Get up below us on the stairs

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into the basement. It's cold. It's very cold right here. There's someone here right now. Hello who's here?

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Identify yourself now. He's at my knees. Yeah I just experienced a significant eomploptrope.

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Relax. No I'm okay. I've had this in this house before. Listen. Okay the stairs are creaking. Listen

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After everything that had happened in the Beacon houses that night

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Peter James offered a startling challenge to the Knapp family. I would wager to say

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that if someone did some kind of excavating if you will and dug up that basement that you'd find a

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full skeleton remains of a body down there. And I think that's the nature of your hunting.

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That's what's causing the anomalous activity, the sounds, the the the cold spots and which are

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which are certainly ways to to confirm the fact that this man died tragically in this house. That's

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what I feel. Following Peter's suggestion and with the permission of Stephanie Knapp, Sightings

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hired an excavation crew to dig into the dirt floor of the family's basement. The crew worked for

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three hours excavating the area where Peter had felt there was a dead body. They dug until the

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crew chief called a halt. Further excavation could compromise the structural integrity of the house.

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No skeletal remains were found.

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Review of the 24-hour surveillance footage also revealed no anomalous activity.

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Despite the lack of new evidence, Peter James remains convinced that the source of the hunting

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in this neighborhood is related to something that happened long ago in the basement of the Knapp

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home. Human remains have been found here and Peter believes that until those remains are identified,

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at least one restless spirit will continue to wreak havoc in Beacon, New York. In the meantime,

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Randy Liebeck offers this advice to the families. One of the things we counsel people on, I counsel

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people on when they have a haunting event in their house and they're frightened by it. I tell them,

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I say, have you tried talking with the ghost? Lay down some ground rules, explain to it that this is

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your house, you're the boss here and either the ghost is not welcome or if it is to be welcome,

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there are certain ground rules. And in many cases, I and other investigators have found that when the

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Percipient addresses the ghost or the entity in the house, lays down these ground rules, the phenomena

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does modify itself to work within those guidelines. The Knapps have never considered moving out of

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their Beacon home, but Stephanie and Amanda almost never go in the basement. Julie Cohen has followed

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through on her plans to move out, but not because the house is haunted. In fact, she is willing to

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work with Randy Liebeck to search for scientific proof of her experiences. What's happened here is

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a gift that we can share and that researchers can now and that's where my commitment came in,

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because Randy helped me get through this at a really bad time and it's real. And I don't know

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what else to say is that it's real. While the sightings team conducted its investigation,

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Julie and her family packed up everything and moved out of their house, out of the haunted

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neighborhood. Since then, Julie reports the ghostly encounters have stopped and life is back to normal.

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Next on sightings, can the dead really speak to us from beyond the grave to save a life?

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It's not very often you get a miracle in your life and then confirmation of it in the same day.

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Death does not separate the living from the dead. The most frequent kind of after death communication

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is feeling the presence. You just know that your loved one is near you.

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Because Harry Houdini vowed that if there was any way to communicate from beyond the grave,

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he would and he hasn't, skeptics say that that proves that there's no such thing as

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after death communication. But what if speaking from beyond the grave isn't a choice that's ours

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to make? What if it's a gift bestowed on a special few that we call guardian angels?

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Today, Walton Dave Frontzak paint a perfect picture of American family values.

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Father and son work side by side at the family owned garage in Wyandotte, Michigan.

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But what isn't apparent on the surface are the eerie events that led them to this point.

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A brush with death, a startling apparition and the voice of Dave's father from beyond the grave.

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Unlike his son, Dave Frontzak did not have a good relationship with his own father,

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Walter Senior. He would come home usually intoxicated and he'd just bring up something that I

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had done incorrect maybe a week before and he'd start yelling hard at me and take his belt off and

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just beat the daylights out of me. I used to go and Dave Dave used to go to his house and his dad

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would be passed out in the chair and a lot of times he didn't want me to come over,

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which it was kind of embarrassing. Soon after Dave and Joanne got married,

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Walter Frontzak contracted tuberculosis. He was confined to a sanitarium and was not there when

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his first grandchild and his namesake, Little Walt, was born. But when Walter Senior was released

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from the hospital two years later, he was clean and sober and his grandson was the apple of his eye.

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He referred to him affectionately as the kid. The conversation always started, did you bring

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the kid with you? I mean that was primary, you didn't care about anything else as long as we

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brought Walter along. I'd go in the living room and sit in his lap. We'd sit there and watch TV

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together. I'd lay my head in the shoulder and sit there and they'd play cards occasionally in the

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kitchen and when they did I'd sit in his lap then. I used to look at him in his actions and I could

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see the love in his eye for Walt and how he would fuss over him and that. I used to think back to

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it would have been nice when I was young if we could have had a relationship like that.

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And the magical relationship between grandfather and grandson ended abruptly when Little Walt was

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only six years old. It was right around my birthday time. We were supposed to have a party and that

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my dad pulled me off to the side and had told me he was sick and you know he was no longer sick

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anymore. He went up to heaven and his suffering and pain and that was all over now and I should,

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it's okay to miss him but I shouldn't feel bad or feel sorry because he's gone. Just try and remember

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the good times and be happy for him because all of his pain and suffering was over. I wished I

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had seen him a week once more and I don't know maybe that was the time I was going to tell him

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dad I love you and I never got that opportunity. Several weeks after the death of his father,

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Dave and Joanne decided to take their family on a long overdue vacation to a rustic cabin on Sugar

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Island near Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan. It was a warm weekend morning when life and death collided

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in one near tragic moment. I was trying to see if I could see the Sue Locks through the binoculars

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and I really couldn't. Meanwhile Walt came out and he said dad can I go play on the inner tube

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in the water? We had taken a couple of new inner tubes along and I says yes but I said stay close

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to shore and you know when you get out it's very deep and it's a swift current. Every now and then

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I just look at him and he's paddling around he's doing just fine. Walt didn't know how to swim.

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He needed the inner tube to keep him afloat in the deep lake water. Dave Franzak only looked away

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for a second but a second was long enough to change his life forever. And I'm standing there and I'm

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looking and all of a sudden my dad's voice is plain as day behind me said watch the kid.

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And it's still hard for me to talk about it. You can see the goosebumps and I looked and there was

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an empty inner tube floating way downstream. You talk about your life flashing in front of you.

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I said to myself how in the world am I going to tell my wife I let our sun drown right in front

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of me when I'm an excellent swimmer. The sun was shining on the water the water was kind of still

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and I looked and I seen what I thought was like three or four little fingertips sticking up out of

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the water. So I dropped the binoculars and I ran fully dressed as far as I could then I dove under

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the water and I looked and I thought I seen walls outlined. So I reached and I grabbed it and it was

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him so I turned around I swam back to where I could stand up and I picked him up out of the water

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and looked at him he wasn't breathing and his eyes literally looked like they were popping out.

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So I threw wall over my shoulder because I'm running up the hill to the house he's bouncing

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up and down on my shoulder and he started coughing and gagging you know I did artificial

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respiration without even realizing it and he started breathing again. I heard them call my name I

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grabbed it he said Joanne Joanne get a blanket I grabbed a blanket and as I'm running down the hill

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I see Dave running up the hill with Walt on his shoulder. Without the voice of his father Dave says

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he would have missed seeing those little fingertips reaching up out of the water

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and when little Walt told his parents that he had seen a vision of his grandfather as he slipped

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under the water Dave realized that the voice he'd heard was not just in his head. One time I had

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floated out a little bit and slid right through the inner tube and went underwater and while I was

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underwater that is where I seen my grandfather. When I went down under the water as plain as

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we're sitting here right now I could see my grandfather in front of me and he just brought

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this calm feeling about me. The first thing he did was just like a kid does he held his breath I could

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see his cheeks puff out like he was trying to show me to hold my breath and he reached with his right

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hand plugged his nose and with his left hand started paddling like toward the top of the water to

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show me to pull myself up started kicking his feet and at six years old I looked at all that and it

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looked quite funny comical it looked like he was trying to show me tricks and and playing with me

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and stuff and the next thing I remembered after that was on my dad's shoulder with him running

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and choking and stuff like that because of the water that was in me. I just started crying I couldn't

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talk anymore it's still hard to talk about it today it's not very often you get a miracle in your life

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and then confirmation of it in the same day. 30 years later father and son still work side by

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side because of a spiritual connection to their shared past both are convinced that they've been

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touched by the afterlife. Beyond the slightest doubt in my mind there is a life after this life

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and I just there's nothing anybody could say to make me believe any different. The way I look at

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or explain it I think maybe after everyone passes away maybe you were allowed at least one trip back

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to earth to do something to help someone I think everybody has some sort of guardian angel that

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was my grandfather there's there's no doubt in my mind. I feel God used an angel through my father

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he gave me the greatest gift any father could give his son he gave me my son so it made up for

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everything you know he could have been bad another 20 years and it still would have made up for it.

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Coming up on sightings a chilling encounter the spirit of a young man returns one year

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after he committed suicide. I believe it thoroughly and entirely and deep in my soul that life goes on

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that there is life after death.

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People who lose their lives it sometimes is a very frustrating experience for them because they're

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always trying to communicate many times with a loved one that they're okay and they didn't have

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that opportunity to do that. An eerie apparition things that go bump and bang then crash in the

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night a chilling moan or a whispered warning from beyond the grave a haunting can be a terrifying

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life-changing experience but it doesn't have to be many people report that the sight or sound of a

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departed loved one is a comfort a sign that there's a better world beyond this one is it wishful thinking

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a hallucination or have some people been given a glimpse for reasons we don't understand of the afterlife.

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Dear family why that must be the question on your mind right now I don't know really not for sure

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I am death what I was in life an enigma to those around me and to myself.

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The voice you've been listening to is the actual voice of 27-year-old Peter Bosco. On March 18th

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1991 Peter recorded the tape wrote his mother a loving note then left his Brookfield kinetic at home.

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He walked along a lakeside path and committed suicide. Peter's mother and honette found the

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tape and a suicide note she called the police and was listening to the tape when there was a fateful

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knock at the door. Before the tape was halfway through the police were back at the door and I

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went running to the door and he said we found him I said alive because I still had the hope they were

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going to find him alive and he said no. Peter Bosco had killed himself with a single gunshot to the

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head. The pain and sorrow caused by his suicide can never be erased but Antoinette Bosco has found

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strength and inner peace through what she believes has been an after-death communication with her son.

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Peter Bosco's 27 years of life presented his mother with a challenging journey but one that

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began with great joy. Peter was the youngest of seven children. He was so beautiful and so delightful

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and so wonderful that he became the kind of the centerpiece of the whole family all the love that

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we had we could lavish on that child. But when Peter turned 17 Antoinette had her first inkling of

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what was to come. I was at work at at the university and I got a call from a neighbor actually who said

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this is very strange but your son was here and he said he's going to commit suicide and I started

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to laugh I said oh I said well Pete's such a jokester I said what was going on and she said no he

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said he left a suicide note. The police found Peter alive meditating in a park. Ten years later on

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the suicide tape he left behind there was an explanation for why Peter had contemplated suicide

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back then and why he didn't go through with it. I was seized with excitement one night and off the

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next morning to meet my end. It was such a thrill that it snapped me out of the malaise I'd been

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trapped in. Antoinette knew then that Peter needed some form of psychiatric treatment. She checked

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her son into a hospital for observation. The diagnosis was not what she expected. The doctor said

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to me your son is hopelessly schizophrenic when the onset is adolescence it is permanent he will be

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hospitalized and institutionalized most of his life and excuse my saying this but I told him to

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go to hell because hey this was my son they were talking about. Antoinette sought a second opinion

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from another psychiatrist who felt that Peter was not schizophrenic but was suffering from

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severe but curable adolescent depression. Antoinette took her son out of the psychiatric hospital

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against the advice of the original physician. He said if you take him out he said and he commits

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suicide his blood will be on your hands this man actually said that to me and I said all I know is

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that if I leave him in here that's when his blood will be on my hands. Peter's new psychiatrist

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treated him throughout the remainder of his high school years. He went to the University of Connecticut

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and graduated cum laude. After college Peter went to Guam to teach math in a Catholic school.

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A year later he returned home to write a book about World War I which was published to much critical

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acclaim. And I thought then great we have finally found it we finally found what he was meant to be

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and then he wrote the proposal for a book on the war of 1812 and went to another publisher right

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here in Connecticut and the book was immediately accepted. Peter's positive outlook infused his

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family and there were signs that he was planning for the future. I had always wanted to have a row

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of evergreen trees. We went to a farm and we bought a number of seedlings and Peter planted them all

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across the back of the yard. We watched them we took great pride in it. The photos of Peter on his

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book covers show a handsome confident scholarly man but on the inside Peter felt that he was none of

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these things. My life is like a Rolls Royce without spark plugs. It looks great but it has a hidden

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flaw that keeps it from running properly. On the morning of March 18th 1991 and when

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Adbosco was on her way to work when she found a long note and an envelope on the windshield of her car.

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The envelope told police where to find Peter's body. The note on yellow legal paper and another

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found with the tape was addressed to mom. He said dear mom as I write this note I am a doomed man

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for some reason my will to live has been inhibited. Feel no guilt for there is no fault.

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Weep not for me for mine was a pleasant and joyful life. Be happy for your son for like a

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wave closing on a drowning man my suffering is ended. Know that I loved you dearly.

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On the Easter Sunday following Peter's death

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Antoinette awakened to the sound of gentle tapping. Peter's ashes had been delivered from the crematorium

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only the day before and now two bright red birds were tapping on the window just inches away from

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Peter's urn. I thought oh my god they must have come from Peter because in much of my research

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I had always been aware of the fact that people seem to communicate with loved ones who have gone

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through nature but then I said Peter I think you sent the birds but I've seen cardinals before.

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I want to know you're happy with God in heaven. I want to see a white bird which I'd never seen

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in Connecticut. The days passed with no sign from a white bird then on April 18th one month to the

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day after Peter's death Antoinette was in her son's room reading a book that Peter had been urging

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before his death. She found a passage that he'd underlined it said that when a mother loses a

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child she should not feel guilty because guilt only drains energy at a time when it's drastically

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needed. At that very moment Antoinette looked up and through the window she saw something that

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sent a chill up her spine. And there sitting on the ground at the base of one of the little spruces

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that he had planted was the white bird. I can tell you my heart started to go you know and I jumped up

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and I looked out it was not a very large bird not as large as a dog pure white except for a little

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black marking on its head and as I looked at it it began to fly upward and it circled the tree and

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then flew straight up and I remember just I don't know if I was crying or laughing or what I was

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doing but I was just saying thanks Pete thanks and thank you Lord. Now I know now I've had my sign and

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I know he's happy with the Lord in heaven and I knew it was a real gift. Antoinette wanted to be sure

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that the sign wasn't just a case of wishful thinking. She researched bird life in Connecticut

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and found that no one had ever seen such a bird in the area. Then on May 18th two months to the day

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after Peter's death the sane bird made another appearance at the home of Peter's sister Margie.

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I walked out of the house and I was about to go shopping and my son Florian who was about five years

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old at the time all of a sudden he said mama look look and I looked and there was this very very

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bright beautiful white bird on the lawn and I started to walk and approach it and as I approached

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the bird I noticed a couple of little black stripes just on the back of the head of the bird

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and then the bird began to fly up this tree and it was like spiraling spiraling around the tree

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around the tree and then it flew off and it just flew flew flew into the sky and I just watched it

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with my eyes until I couldn't see it anymore until it just disappeared. I knew instantly

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it was a sign it was Pete wanted to comfort us and to know that it was it was a message that

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it was a sign of peace that he was at peace and there was a sign of love that he loved us and he

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was still with us. Although Peter Bosco spent only 27 years on earth his family is convinced that he

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lives on and not just in their memories. I believe it thoroughly and entirely and deep in my soul

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that life goes on that there is life after death.

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Next on Sightings did this young boy live another life? I know my little boy really

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experienced what he said he did there's no doubt in my mind. A past life we remember

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and later one of the most paranormal encounters ever captured on videotape.

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Sally stop it she does this when she's upset.

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I'm sure that there's no person who hasn't experienced something

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phenomenal something that they can't explain or something that they interpret as almost miraculous.

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In eastern religions like Hinduism and Buddhism proof of an afterlife doesn't come through ghosts

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or supernatural symbols. The proof they teach is within each and every one of us because we are

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all the reincarnation of spirit energy that came before us. Well it's a concept that's impossible

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to prove in a laboratory or to calculate mathematically but easily explained by some

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remarkable children who speak to us about their past lives.

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The town of Hampton Virginia is a curious blend of the very old and the very new. Hampton is home

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to America's oldest Anglican church built in 1610 and one of the nation's oldest cemeteries

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with grave markers dating back to the 17th century but Hampton is also undergoing a 20th

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century Renaissance. The town's progress has been watched closely by real estate agent Joanne

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McElroy Hill who lives in neighboring Virginia Beach. Joanne is the mother of two children

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Pierce and Mackenzie. In the spring of 1995 when Pierce was six and Mackenzie 16 months

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Joanne took them on their first trip to Hampton. We were driving down a road that I had

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only been on a few times he never had never been to that part of the town and out of the clear

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blue he said mom please turn here turn here I want to see the boats I want to go down by the water

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and I don't see any water or any boats

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but here is where he got real excited and said turn turn I want you to turn here

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and this is where I turned and as I was turning the car I was thinking how does he know where

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we're going and what water is he talking about what where are the boats. The road eventually led

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them to the Hampton Roads Harbor but this was not the final destination Joanne's son had in mind.

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As I approached to dead end Pierce told me to turn again and I turned and went about a

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block down and he said stop mom there's the house there's the house and finally I asked him

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Pierce what does that house mean to you I don't know the house and he said well you should recognize

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that we used to live there and I was shocked I felt like I had goosebumps all over my body

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and I looked at the house he was talking about didn't bring any memories to me at all

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I asked him at that point I said well who lived there he said well you and I lived there and

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my dad lived there and I lived there for a long time mom don't you remember don't you remember I

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got to be very old. Then Pierce asked his mother to drive around the neighborhood which seemed to

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spark in him a flood of eerie memories. I said was McKenzie with us and he said no she wasn't my sister

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then McKenzie was my friend he said McKenzie and I were best friends and she lived in that house

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right over there and he pointed about three doors away to another large old house. Joanne recalls

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being completely unnerved by the tone in her son's voice. At that time I think I was in shock I had

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goosebumps all over my arms Pierce didn't sound like himself he sounded very authoritative his

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voice was a little more mature it was so sure of himself and I was I was completely in shock.

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Joanne's concerns about what was happening to her son only grew when Pierce began to complain

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that his sister was constantly tanking along. He said she's been following me for a long time

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he said in fact when it was time for me to come down from heaven

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McKenzie wanted to come with me and they had to say no McKenzie you can't go yet it's not your time.

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For more than a year Joanne kept the strange experiences to herself but then she learned

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that she was not alone at the same time that Pierce was recalling what seemed to be his past life

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author Carol Bowman was documenting many similar experiences for her book Children's Past Lives.

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Published in 1997 the book and a complimentary website have encouraged many otherwise reluctant

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parents and children to come forward with their past life experiences. There's a tremendous body

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of research at the University of Virginia Medical School done by Dr. Ian Stevenson who has collected

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over 2600 cases of spontaneous past life recalling children and in each of these cases he meticulously

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researched what the child said their behaviors and was able to trace what they said to the identity

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of a specific person who had lived and died before this child was born. The stories in Bowman's

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book it seems are only the tip of the iceberg since publication hundreds of families have

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contacted Bowman including the Austrian family of Milford Connecticut a series of puzzling events

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shared by Patricia Austrian her husband Donald a physician and their son Edward have made them

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reality of Children's Past Lives. Edward's first memories of a past life were verbalized when he

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was only 18 months old Edward complained about a pain in his neck that he referred to as his shot

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well coming from a clinical background my initial impression was that Edward was talking about one

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of the shots his pediatrician had given him I had never thought that he had more to say than that

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as Edward grew he complained more and more about his shot and suffered terribly from frequent

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bouts with respiratory infections when Edward was four he became very very ill one morning

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ill at his sister pointed out to me that his throat appeared to be swollen it was almost as if

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he was a teenager with an Adam's apple protruding but it wasn't delineated it was just very puffy

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when I came over and felt his neck and and I said oh my god you know given the knowledge that I have

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I figured there was the worst of all possible worlds you know serious infection or cancer or

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something that would cut his life short an ear nose and throat specialist diagnosed Edward with

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a thyroid glossal duct cyst a condition that would require two separate operations first Edward

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would have to have his tonsils removed then once he'd healed doctors could perform a more complicated

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surgery to remove the cyst by the time the normally stoic child arrived for his tonsillectomy

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he was hysterical what Edward was very fearful of is not coming back again we would not be there

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he didn't want to be alone again when the operation was over Edward had a reaction

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completely unlike that of other children his age tears are running down his face and he was so glad

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that we were there for him again that's all Edward cared about he said I don't have to go back again

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that really took me back because we knew Edward was supposed to go back and be operated on

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for the thyroid glossal duct cyst while Edward was recovering from his first surgery he told his

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parents an incredible story that seemed to explain much of his mysterious behavior in the hospital

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he started to tell us how he had been in France he was 18 he was walking along

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and he could hear the noise behind him I was a soldier and my name is James and I was very tired

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cold and hungry and I was scared he said I wanted to run my rifle was heavy I wanted to go home

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and also I heard this bang and I went I turned around and a bullet had gotten shot obviously

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and it had gone through somebody it went and it hit me right back here

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in the neck and I remember just falling to the ground in extreme pain just um it was unbelievable

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and he said I felt my throat filled with blood I could feel the salty taste

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I remember gasping for air and I started choking also and I just blacked out my dad knows

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so that was it and he said it wasn't supposed to be like this

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I didn't even get started shortly after Edward revealed the story of his past life the cyst

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that had caused the swelling in his neck suddenly and inexplicably disappeared

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just as Edward had predicted after the first operation he did not have to return to the

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hospital the Austrian family is convinced that there is a link between Edward's recollection

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and the miraculous healing that took place right after I believe my son

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I can't do anything else it was just so coincidental it seemed that it couldn't have

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happened by chance discussing a shot in a neck describing a fibroglossal duct cyst in the same

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area it's almost that the child had um you know what I see in in the alternative medicine

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circles now is almost having had guided imagery uh self healing given to himself

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in a subliminal sense um and that his healing process for whatever reason was miraculous

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I know my little boy really experienced what he said he did there's no doubt in my mind

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you can tell um I guess I've always believed the eyes are the mirror to one's soul

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and when you look into the eyes of a small child who's four years old and they are telling you this

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and this is how it is and there's no two ways about it you know what you're dealing with is real

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because I've seen other cases like Edward's I believe that his cyst was healed because he was

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able to express his past life memory the trauma on the battlefield and most significantly Edward

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himself believes that the past life experiences he has recalled are not a dream nor a figment of

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his imagination I just knew it couldn't have been a dream because my dreams when I was little they

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were not that realistic I mean I wouldn't be thinking of war and everything and I mean I wasn't

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really exposed to that sort of thing when I was younger so it couldn't have been a dream

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and when I was little those things would terrify me when I was little and I just try not to think

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about it but there was that one thing that was stuck in my mind and I knew that it was true and I

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know that it happened everybody right now in the sir has a purpose in life to fulfill I think

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if everybody doesn't get to fulfill they're supposed to fulfill on life they'll have another life

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and they'll have another chance I think those keep getting chance after chance until you get to

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and you feel good about it inside so does God coming up violent paranormal activity captured

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on tape Bailey stop it look one's starting to bleed an investigation at the most haunted house in

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America next on psychics

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the belief in ghosts or evil spirits is a very natural belief it's very natural to think that

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there are beings that aren't looking out for us

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over the years sightings has researched thousands of supposedly haunted sites around the world

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the most are intriguing some are compelling but only a handful like the haunted neighborhood in

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beacon new york are worthy of a full-scale investigation and there is one case where the

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results have been so spectacular that we can say with confidence that this is the most haunted place

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01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:16,640
in America

583
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:27,760
Sally stop it look one's starting to bleed oh why don't you sit down there's a little girl

584
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:34,800
that's standing right there Sally is that your name Sally I don't know if I'm this half fresh half

585
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:41,440
dead flower yeah I'm gonna scratch Sally make your presence known now

586
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:56,080
this is where it all begins a small town in America's heartland a place where families

587
01:04:56,080 --> 01:05:01,840
raise their children and bury their loved ones an ordinary place in every way except one

588
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:07,200
inside this quiet house on a shady street a restless spirit began making its presence

589
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:11,200
known to a young family when they moved in in january of 1993

590
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:20,320
the haunting experienced by Tony Debra and their infant son Taylor was mild at first and seemed to

591
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:26,240
center around Taylor's upstairs nursery it was here that a disconcerting phenomenon began to emerge

592
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:31,520
photographs of newborn Taylor were marred by strange blocks of free-floating light and shadow

593
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,520
it happened on roll after roll the film and with two different cameras

594
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:41,840
afraid for her newborn child Debra asked psychic farmer Conner to come to the house to try to

595
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:46,800
determine what was causing the haunting activity Conner felt that it was the spirit of a precocious

596
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:52,160
little child named Sally and Sally Conner believed was responsible for the eerie photograph

597
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:56,480
trick photography expert Edson Williams examined the pictures for sightings

598
01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:02,560
photographic evidence is something I always question because my job is to create illusions

599
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:08,720
photographically but these several pictures that I was shown are very difficult to explain

600
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:14,160
the evidence of a bizarre haunting was so compelling that sightings sent a crew to investigate

601
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,040
moments after this interview with Debra began

602
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:26,000
there was a commotion in the living room something was wrong with Tony

603
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:42,960
she's right here because it is freezing right here it is freezing I feel it all you do is you

604
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:48,960
feel this cold go through you that's how I I could feel it we're we're interviewing it's hot

605
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,960
we've turned the air conditioner off for sound purposes but it is cold right here in this part

606
01:06:52,960 --> 01:07:00,160
of the room this is the same thing that occurs when holy she's scratched his face or he's had

607
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:09,040
scratches across his forehead her down his arm she does this when she's upset I know my heart's

608
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:15,440
found them too but what had caused the vicious attack Tony and Debra asked Barbara Conner to

609
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:22,640
try to communicate with Sally how you doing feeling good what's this that's what she just did she

610
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:29,360
just did this later reluctantly Tony agreed to an interview at this point in our investigation

611
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:34,560
he was still requesting that his identity be hidden I she scares the living daylights out of me

612
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:41,280
to be honest with you I'm gonna add this right now she's right here with me right now I'm feeling

613
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:52,720
something really cold shoot around my stomach um he was obviously in pain we asked Tony to describe

614
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:59,440
what he was feeling but Tony didn't respond for a moment he couldn't speak it's really frightening

615
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:05,440
is she's just went right through my midsection

616
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,080
oh my god look look

617
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:28,880
I can't come up with an explanation why she does this it's forming right there

618
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,800
she tends to do this to me because I upset her sometimes I

619
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:36,800
and she wants to be noticed I think today

620
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:44,640
paranormal investigator Howard Heim brought in instruments in an attempt to measure the

621
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:50,160
strange coldness and magnetic energy in the house the video interference that you're seeing

622
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:55,600
occurred during Heim's investigation it's not the result of defective tape or camera malfunction

623
01:08:55,600 --> 01:09:02,560
but rather some undetermined force within the home you can feel it well let's take a few minutes

624
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:12,240
this 77.7 degrees Fahrenheit in here just dropped a point it did instantly drop a point from 0.7 to

625
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:23,600
0.6 just dropped another point it's dropping again 0.4 dropped again 0.3 now and I gradually

626
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:31,040
dropped a point again it's now 0.2 it keeps getting cooler in this room Heim's instruments recorded

627
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:37,840
both an increase in electromagnetism and a decrease in room temperature but no instrument could explain

628
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:43,040
what happened in the kitchen while Deborah was showing Barbara a teddy bear that had been inexplicably

629
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:50,320
burned my husband found this kind of half fresh half dead flower

630
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:56,960
singed around the edges could Sally have burned both the stuffed bear and the rose

631
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,760
we checked our raw field tape and discovered the rose and the windowsill

632
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,920
unburnt just moments before Tony had noticed it was singed and black

633
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:10,800
it

634
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:15,120
looks incredible the interior leaves are burnt around the edges

635
01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:23,040
no damage to the overlapping leaf as if they were individually burned and then assembled

636
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:29,200
that is bizarre that you can't you can't duplicate this

637
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:32,640
this cannot be duplicated

638
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:40,560
during our investigation everyone who entered the house felt an eerie ghostly presence

639
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:46,960
but only Tony claims to have seen Sally's human form there was a little girl standing not more

640
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:53,200
than three foot away from me just as plain as you are to me now just standing there with this

641
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:57,360
plain look on her face just looking at me like she was curious about me too

642
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:04,000
suddenly the unflinching eye of the camera captured another bloody attack

643
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:11,360
what first appeared as scratches soon grew into long thick angry welts there was no

644
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:16,800
environmental or medical explanation look one's starting to bleed there's a whole new

645
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:23,760
oh look at that look at that oh look at that oh my god it actually just is around

646
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:29,520
it's this nice dark one where it's bleeding and this is like the most profound thing i've

647
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:38,320
ever seen in all parapsychology this is fact and you have it on tape this paranormal milestone

648
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:44,080
was later analyzed by world renowned parapsychologist Carrie Gaynor who was the lead investigator on

649
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:49,760
both the entity and poltergeist cases the exciting thing for me as a researcher is that the camera

650
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:55,120
didn't pull away it was there the whole time and that severely reduces the the possibility of any

651
01:11:55,120 --> 01:12:00,960
kind of hoax our initial investigation had produced taped evidence unlike anything we'd ever seen

652
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:06,880
before i returned with our sightings team for a closer look what i witnessed was disturbing

653
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:12,000
i feel it now blowing very strong at the back of my hand great she's over here

654
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,240
she's okay

655
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:21,200
more oh well now that's very interesting be okay if i sit down here why don't you sit why don't you

656
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:28,960
sit down i can i can tell that uh you you're losing your breath right now sally what did i tell you

657
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,280
sally we see you we know you're here

658
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:39,520
whoever or whatever was responsible for these painful episodes struck repeatedly throughout

659
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:47,280
the day then i was shocked to see mysterious wells forming on tony's forehead this whole spirit thing

660
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:53,600
scares me and they just some of the things she's done she's lit fires and i you know i think well

661
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:58,240
she wants to hurt me why couldn't she just light me on fire or whatever she does to some of the other

662
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:04,080
things around here what was the source of the energy responsible for the terrifying phenomena

663
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:09,840
occurring here this question has never been completely answered despite a long term six year

664
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:16,560
investigation as we did with the beacon new york hauntings sightings as peter james to investigate

665
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:24,480
the heartland ghost and attempt to make contact peter says that he has had the ability to speak

666
01:13:24,480 --> 01:13:30,160
with the spirits of the dead since he was a child and so we did not give peter any of the details

667
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:36,400
the case he never saw any videotape he knew nothing specific about the haunting activity or

668
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:41,280
the gruesome scratches and he didn't know the family called the entity sally

669
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:50,640
there's a little girl that's standing right there right at the top of the stairs hello

670
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,600
hello

671
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:08,640
hello can you speak to me sally is that your name sally tony debora and the sightings investigative

672
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:14,640
team were amazed that peter had correctly identified the entity but would he succeed

673
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:20,000
where parapsychologists had failed would peter james be able to communicate with sally

674
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:29,360
i'm getting a lot of resistance right here at the door meaning whatever is in the room

675
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,040
wants me out speak to me

676
01:14:36,480 --> 01:14:37,360
show yourself

677
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:39,120
so

678
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:47,680
suddenly something lashed out at to me with its full fury you're in control here so don't

679
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:54,000
don't don't be frightened there's nothing to be afraid of remember you're in control here

680
01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:01,600
who or what was attacking tony when sighting searched town records a startling discovery

681
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:08,080
confirmed peter james's psychic interpretation we found the death record for a child named sally

682
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:14,720
date of death 1905 peter sensed an important link between this sally and the house do you know if

683
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:19,840
anyone medical lived in this house there was there was a medical person yeah because that's i feel

684
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:25,120
very medical about this for some reason in a turn of the century directory we discovered that the

685
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:31,280
house was once owned by a family doctor and according to official records the doctor moved out in 1906

686
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:38,960
just after sally's death could there be a connection during his visit to this community

687
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:44,160
peter was drawn to a cemetery one of the oldest in town it was here that he had a vision of a

688
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:50,080
little girl dying of pneumonia and the doctor who couldn't save her peter said he heard a small

689
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:56,000
voice calling him toward one particular grave the gravestone was so old and weather beaten that the

690
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:01,360
inscription had disappeared but when sightings checked cemetery records for that plot we made

691
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:06,880
a chilling discovery plot one fourth row west was the final resting place of a little girl

692
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,280
sally isabel hall

693
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:18,880
it was the most bizarre evidence of a haunting that anyone on the sightings team had ever

694
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:24,880
encountered and we were capturing it on videotape believe what you will about the source of the

695
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:29,600
paranormal activity here those bloody welds that began to appear all over tony's body didn't come

696
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:35,680
from any earthly source that we could detect they just appeared seemingly out of nowhere and right on

697
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:42,160
camera next on sightings investigators and researchers moved closer to the source of this

698
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:48,000
disturbing paranormal violence during the last 20 years i've investigated about 850 cases and during

699
01:16:48,000 --> 01:17:04,400
that time i have never come across anything like this

700
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:16,400
in every room we're in wherever we are we are never alone we are surrounded by the invisible world

701
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:27,760
why the supposed ghost of an angry little girl named sally chose tony as the object of her rage

702
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:33,360
is still unknown but what is known is that once the bloody scratches and welts began to appear

703
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:37,920
they just kept coming first on his arm then on his stomach then on his forehead then on his back

704
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:43,520
it wasn't a medical condition or an allergy or a cat or as far as we could honestly tell a hoax

705
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,240
are self inflicted so what was it

706
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:57,600
now that peter james's psychic visions of a turn of the century child named sally had been validated

707
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:03,120
through historical records sightings began an unprecedented investigation into what we believe

708
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:09,840
to be the most haunted house in america joined by parapsychologist kerry gainer an investigative team

709
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:15,760
returned to the house in america's heartland to set up an arsenal of electronics particular

710
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:20,640
attention was given to paranormal hotspots throughout the house where ghostly activity had

711
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:26,400
been seen or felt in the past the kitchen the living room the master bedroom and the room where

712
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:32,640
sally seemed to feel most at home the nursery oscilloscopes frequency counters and surveillance

713
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:38,080
cameras would monitor the house continuously much of the equipment was concentrated in the nursery

714
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:43,360
one camera physician was at the top of the stairs where peter james had claimed to have

715
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:49,600
encountered the wrathful entity known as sally two cameras were placed in the living room area

716
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:54,640
where the sightings investigating team had first witnessed bloody welts forms spontaneously on

717
01:18:54,640 --> 01:19:01,440
tony we were now set to monitor any anomalous activity that might occur inside the house

718
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:07,360
we turned the family kitchen into a control center audio transmitters were placed around the house

719
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:13,520
and separate video recorders were assigned to each camera we also implemented a handheld

720
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:19,920
thermal imaging system any unusual cold spots would turn the normally red tones of human flesh to

721
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:26,240
blue kerry gainer recommended that our investigation be conducted in as close to dark as possible

722
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:30,640
we were determined to find an answer to what had become the most baffling haunting in the history

723
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:35,920
of sightings all right i want to you make a request anything that comes to your mind

724
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:43,920
i like you do this for me please i'd like for you to show them that you're really here

725
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:52,000
no one in the room heard a response just then tony felt a now familiar sensation of cold

726
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:58,000
around his torso yeah we got a new scratch

727
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:05,440
yeah we got fresh blood here this wasn't here two minutes ago

728
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:08,640
and the bizarre events continued through the night

729
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:19,840
at the top of the stairs our frequency counter suddenly and uncharacteristically jumped from

730
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:28,240
399 to 575 megahertz indicating an electrical disturbance at this same spot earlier in the day

731
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:32,560
one of our surveillance cameras had picked up a lot of interference something a closed

732
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:38,640
circuit camera isn't supposed to do and in the nursery video signals began to drift and then

733
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:46,720
completely disappeared the next morning a sense of calm returned to the house but for the paranormal

734
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:52,800
investigators on scene it had been a night to remember filled with historic and unexplained events

735
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:57,920
yesterday and last evening i spent about 14 straight hours here investigating this case

736
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:04,800
during that time there were 11 separate instances of scratch marks on his body some of the scratches

737
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:11,360
were very thin and some were very thick welt like scratches that were really quite frightful

738
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:16,400
during the last 20 years i've investigated about 850 cases and during that time i have never

739
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:22,080
come across anything like this and there was at least one other bizarre phenomenon that night

740
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:27,520
that went undetected by gainer and the rest of the sightings team i'd like for you to show them

741
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:37,840
that you're really here the mysterious rumble or moan wasn't discovered until later when a team

742
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,880
heard a tape of the investigation during an editing session

743
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:52,480
two audio experts were hired to analyze the tape for sightings their findings the sound was neither

744
01:21:52,480 --> 01:22:01,520
electronic nor human but what about those scratches couldn't tony's affliction have a

745
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:06,480
medical rather than a paranormal explanation i've been researching a skin condition called

746
01:22:06,480 --> 01:22:12,800
dermatographism and what that is is a person can scratch himself and nothing will show up until

747
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:18,480
about 10 or 15 minutes later the references that i've looked at so far do not include bleeding with

748
01:22:18,480 --> 01:22:23,920
this skin condition and certainly in this case there have been bleeding scratch marks if we just

749
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:28,320
drop our skepticism just for a moment and as a researcher i'm not really allowed to do that

750
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:32,240
but there's a real human angle here and that is a man's being terrorized she scares and living

751
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:37,760
daylight out of me something is happening to him without his say without his control

752
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:42,880
and he's got to be thinking to himself well if this could happen what else could happen

753
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:49,840
when the exorcism failed to calm off the vicious attacks on tony and after three years of disturbing

754
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:57,280
ghostly activity the family finally gave in and moved out of the house did sally go with them

755
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:02,000
we asked psychic peter james to return to the now empty house for the sightings

756
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:06,000
investigative team their mission to see if sally was still at home

757
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:15,280
because much of the haunting activity had been reported after dark we used night vision lenses

758
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:22,880
as peter james conducted a psychic survey of the house okay we're good i want to go in this room first

759
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,400
our nighttime is their daytime

760
01:23:33,440 --> 01:23:40,000
there's someone there's someone there is an entity in this room right now no doubt in my mind

761
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:46,960
peter felt that the eerie force was leading him down the hallway and into the former nursery

762
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:49,840
where sally's presence had always been felt most intensely

763
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:51,840
all right

764
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:53,840
yeah i'm fine just burn

765
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:55,840
beautiful

766
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:57,840
yeah she's oh man really burned

767
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:03,840
sally has apparently burned before a rose a teddy bear and now a person

768
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,400
something is burning my face like right now

769
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,600
peter james was visibly shaken by the painful encounter

770
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:17,600
wow

771
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:21,200
wow sally you'd be nice

772
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:28,160
the next day sightings conducted the world's first real-time online ghost investigation

773
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:33,680
kerry gainer was answering user questions in a live computer forum when the former residents

774
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:37,840
of the house dropped in unexpectedly within minutes so did sally

775
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:44,560
so did you feel it here or down here where did you feel it kind of like

776
01:24:45,440 --> 01:24:52,800
all across here all the whole thing yeah the first reaction from the online audience was skeptical

777
01:24:53,440 --> 01:24:55,280
how do we try hope this is not a hoax

778
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:04,640
well i don't know i'll let you answer that we got we got we got 15 people observing this right now

779
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:11,040
in the last five in the last five minutes three scratches appeared on his body in full view

780
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:18,160
of eight witnesses and those scratches were not the last just after the online session wrapped

781
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:24,320
up sally who always seemed to crave attention struck again with a new viciousness no one on

782
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:30,400
our team had witnessed before you physically felt that yeah that hurt describe to me again what you

783
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:34,320
what you felt this sharp thing felt like something stabbed something in my back

784
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:41,360
it would be more than two years before sightings team would return to the site of the heartland ghost

785
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:46,800
haunting there had been several tenants in the interim but none had had a running with sally

786
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,880
it looks the same not much has changed

787
01:25:54,720 --> 01:26:02,640
peter entered the house with some trepidation sally i'm back sally

788
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:06,560
make your presence known sally

789
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:19,040
there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that she is here none whatsoever i sense um

790
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:26,240
the same kind of activity however to a lesser degree and i would attribute that to the fact that

791
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:32,960
the young man that lived here is not here and i believe that sally or the perpetrator if you will

792
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:38,880
that did all the scratching had a thing for him that that that disliked him immensely but the

793
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:44,800
activity remains the same sally is still here and active tony stayed away from the house on our

794
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:49,920
most recent visit but deborah brought sightings up to date on her husband's progress he went through

795
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:58,240
an awful lot each time the sightings crew came up and it was quite traumatizing to him and he's now had

796
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:06,000
a cooling off a healing period where he can feel free with them with the knowledge that nothing

797
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:13,520
is going to sneak up on him and scratch him in sally's eyes this is her home and when you enter the

798
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:20,000
domain if you will of a ghost they let you know that you're invading their space so the family

799
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:25,760
just happened to move in and bumped into sally literally things that go bump into the night

800
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:30,880
when she bumped back but deborah has lingering fears that sally will rear her ugly head in their

801
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:39,600
new home and torment tony once again today i had peter come over and um walk through our now permanent

802
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:48,560
house to kind of check over whether we are being bothered over there i got an immediate sense that

803
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:55,120
it would be very unlikely that they would have any kind of haunting activity in the new house

804
01:27:55,200 --> 01:28:01,280
the new house is clean because i believe that houses are haunted and not people according to

805
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:06,400
peter james sally will haunt this house in america's heartland for many years to come

806
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:12,560
until she realizes that her physical body no longer exists and her spirit can finally rest in peace

807
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:20,880
next on sightings the dead speak from beyond the grave and change the lives of the living

808
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:28,160
edwards experiences given me a lot more spiritual understanding we're spiritual beings we may end

809
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:33,040
up going from one life to the next this phenomenon is part of our experience reality it's been

810
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:44,640
reported since the beginning of time it's come up in all cultures

811
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:56,640
the dramatic rescue of a drowning child because of the intervention of his deceased grandfather

812
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:02,000
the appearance of a unique white bird as a sign from a son who had committed suicide

813
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:06,400
the reincarnation of a young soldier in the form of the compassionate child

814
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:14,080
the mysterious phenomenon of spontaneous scratches on a man's body at first these experiences appear

815
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:20,400
distinct and unrelated but they all share one thing in common they beg us to ask the question

816
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:28,480
is their life after death and why for those who have had firsthand experience with the afterlife

817
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:37,280
pondering such questions has profoundly affected this life in the last uh 10 15 years i've been

818
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:45,680
quite ill gone through a couple heart surgeries and beyond the slightest doubt in my mind if it

819
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:53,440
wasn't for my son walton i would have lost my home my business everything again i believe in my heart

820
01:29:53,440 --> 01:30:00,480
this was all part of god's plan edwards experiences given me a lot more spiritual understanding

821
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:06,080
we're spiritual beings we may end up going from one life to the next who knows maybe we're like

822
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:13,600
the hindu's who figure we have to get placed on earth uh each time until we get our lives right

823
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:20,880
it's an ongoing part of the spirit's life we're just we're just another passenger sitting by him on

824
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:28,320
the train and they're corresponding with us they're trying to find out about us and we're

825
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:33,360
trying to find out about them and when we move out they're just going to be someone else sitting in

826
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:38,640
that seat and i think it's going to take the same role in just a different with different turns

827
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:44,000
despite the strong will beliefs of those personally affected there is a naturally

828
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:49,200
skeptical side in all of us those who have dedicated their lives to explore such phenomena

829
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:55,760
have struggled to arrive at objective answers for example is there such a thing as a truly haunted

830
01:30:55,760 --> 01:31:01,600
house or could ghostlike activity be the result of some unknown aspect of the human mind to say

831
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:07,440
whether or not julie is causing the activity or is just being used as a energy source for the

832
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:14,480
it's very fine wine uh i my suspicion is that you have two separate things going on you have

833
01:31:14,480 --> 01:31:20,080
little girls ghost in the house which would be here whether julie was here or not i think julie's

834
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:25,920
presence in the house has kicked off another set of dynamics where possibly she is acting as a

835
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:31,440
poltergeist agent through a means we cannot explain right now it is equally difficult to

836
01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:36,880
rationally understand the concept of reincarnation i think through the process of reincarnation

837
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:43,840
we're given a chance to learn a very difficult lesson which is how to be truly loving and

838
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:50,080
compassionate and i think it's something that we can't learn in just one lifetime so we experience

839
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:56,560
ourselves our souls in many different roles questions seem to generate even more questions

840
01:31:56,560 --> 01:32:02,400
will we ever in this life find an answer this phenomenon is part of our experienced reality

841
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:08,560
it's been reported since the beginning of time it's come up in all cultures so the idea that it's

842
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:14,400
fraudulent is just kind of a paranoid idea um as to what the real explanation is none of us know at

843
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:20,800
this point but it's here to stay and it's a major chunk of human experience to ignore it is to retreat

844
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:25,120
into ignorance to pursue it is to pursue one of the most provocative mysteries of our time

845
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:31,040
for the people we've met on this program the afterlife is alive and well it's a tangible

846
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:37,520
experience capable of transcending time and space but what about those of us who have yet to see a

847
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:46,640
ghost or sense of past life or receive an otherworldly sign well there is also an afterlife it may be a

848
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:53,440
homemade quilt or a lock of hair or family tradition passed on that whispers the truth

849
01:32:53,440 --> 01:33:05,760
passed on that whispers i'm still here for this special edition of sightings i'm tim white

850
01:33:23,440 --> 01:33:33,760
and